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Срочно нужен совет !!!!!!



6 Ноя 2006
Доброго дня !!
Мне продавец предложил купить товар по секонд ченс офер и заплатить при этом через вестерн юнион, как как он говорит, что сейчас находится в деловой поездке. Меня одолевают сомнения - кидок или нет ? Товар был продан за 138, а мне предлагает взять за мою ставку 110 - причем это вместе с доставкой по америке, когдя я спросил может ли он доставить товар в Россию, он сказал что может, но не скорректировал цену. Поэтому приведу все письма переписки от него

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Selling.Worldwide Selling.Worldwide@hotmail.com sent you this eBay item.

eBay sent this message to ctepx2001.

eBay sent this message on behalf of an eBay member via email. To respond to this offer please reply to the seller at this email address: Selling.Worldwide@hotmail.com .

Good news! The following eBay item on which you placed a bid for US$ 110.00 is now available for purchase:

The winner of this item got rejected due to security reasons (either he failed to follow through on the purchase commitment or outright refused to do so). Your last auctioned bid prior to being outbided is taken into consideration as eBay policy automatically proclaims you to be the winner by default. The selling of this item through Second Chance Offer is in compliance with eBay policy; you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for all eBay services associated with a transaction.

To purchase this item please contact the seller by replying to this email address: Selling.Worldwide@hotmail.com .
Current bid: US $138.50 (7 bids) <font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">
(Approximately GBP 70.28)
Postage: US $24.99
End date: Mar-16-07 10:40:51 PDT

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Details for item number: 150102802289
Item URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150102802289&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:11

Post to: United States
Seller: theshutterbug(1054)
99.6% Positive Feedback
Member since Mar-10-00 in United States

2 письмо

I still have it available for selling.
I will let it go for your last bid price and I will pay the shipping costs
and insurance taxes.
We will finish this deal only through eBay. If you agree to proceed with the
purchase please provide me your full name, eBay ID and shipping address so
we can get the ball rolling and I will contact eBay regarding our deal.
After that they will send you the information of ""how to purchase the
item"". I will wait for your email.

3 письмо

I also need your full name and shipping address so I can proceed and start
the transaction. I am waiting for your email. Regards !

4 письмо

I received the details. I will contact eBay and start the transaction
You will receive further payment instructions from them which you will have
to follow.
I am currently on a business trip in Italy and I'll need the payment sent to
me here. (anyway... eBay will send you the information you need to do the
Let me know once you receive them. Regards

5 письмо

I am in a business trip and I can not take Pay Pal. let me know when payment
is completed as requested. I will wait for your email.

6 письмо

Second Chance Offer - Invoice for payment #150102802289
Current status: Payment pending. Purchase protection granted.
Dear eBay member ctepx2001,
After verifying the trustworthiness of the seller theshutterbug( 1056Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) About Me , and the availability of the merchandise for immediate shipping, we have approved your buy it now transaction and offered you as the buyer, full purchase protection for the amount you agreed on with the seller.

Item number: #150102802289
Item price: US$ 110.00 / Amount insured
Shipping price: Ready to ship / The Item price includes shipping and insurance fees.
Payment: Pending

Item Number:
Amount insured:
Date of verification:
Payment must be sent by:
Next step to be taken:
US$ 110.00
Mon Apr 9 2007
Western Union Money Transfer
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ответ на письмо, где я спосил, почему за доставку в Россию он не просит дополнительной оплаты еще не получил

Очень жду Вашего совета, так как лот для меня по заманчивой цене!!!!

история ставок

tstouse( 318Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $138.50 Mar-23-07 10:39:29 PDT
tkt1018( 5 ) US $136.00 Mar-23-07 10:40:26 PDT
daharb5( 0 ) US $130.00 Mar-22-07 21:45:53 PDT
ctepx2001( 5 ) US $110.00 Mar-23-07 06:27:35 PDT
tkt1018( 5 ) US $104.79 Mar-22-07 20:25:38 PDT
daharb5( 0 ) US $100.00 Mar-22-07 09:26:23 PDT
fpitch13( 8 ) US $61.00 Mar-18-07 06:13:19 PDT


27 Фев 2006
А как вы вели переписку? Через ибэй мессенджер?
Дело в том, что ибэй все сообщения делает через мессенджер, а копии посылает через эл. почту. При этом он кроме ибэй ID (ваш стерх 2001) должен обращаться еще и по имени.
Далее. Вестерн Юнион запрещен на ибэе!!!
У шаттербага есть сайт http://www.theshutterbugonline.com/index.asp
Зачем такой фирме с несколькими магазинами париться с получением 110 баксов через наличный перевод?


Похоже вас хочет кинуть дядя из Италии.

PS. Все же лучше всю переписку вести через ибэй.


6 Ноя 2006
похоже, сейчас пришло письмо, ответ на мой вопрос - нужно ли доплачивать за пересылку в Россию - ответ, нет. Получается за 110 (за все всего лишь 110)баков они готовы переслать лот в Россию, подозрительно

похоже, сейчас пришло письмо, ответ на мой вопрос - нужно ли доплачивать за пересылку в Россию - ответ, нет. Получается за 110 (за все всего лишь 110)баков они готовы переслать лот в Россию, подозрительно

Парень, может быть ждешь, пока тебе кто-то из гуру скажет: давай, плати, ничего страшного? Ты же и сам видишь как все это подозрительно. Я бы не стал связываться.


6 Ноя 2006
да нет, не жду, просто никогда не сталкивался
все же когда то в первый раз... :)


25 Янв 2007
Хоть я и не профи, чтобы раздавать советы, но я бы не рисковал.


13 Мар 2006
2 741
I will contact eBay regarding our deal.
After that they will send you the information of ""how to purchase the
- писал явно пленный румын из Италии

Second Chance Offer - Invoice for payment #150102802289
при секонд шанце номер лота меняется. Это абсолютно другой новый лот.

в общем скажи ему презрительное КУ! :)

П.С. и вообще, при секонд шансе ты должен получить ссылку на лот и пойти и сделать ставку. Лотт должен быть виден в "твой еВау".


30 Авг 2004
Не связываться - кидалово на 99%


6 Янв 2005
1 253
Helsinki, Finland
99% слишком оптимистично - в этом случае 100% мошенничество и удивлюсь если кому-то это не очевидно... Частенько получаю подобные предложения.
Особенно меня порадовало second chance после того как я однажды помог своему другу немножко поднять цену на его лот и, разумеется, его не выиграл. :)

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