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Мошенничество. Указание товара, которого реально нет, но в теме продажи указывают: Если не согласны,

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Нарвался на интересную покупку. Покупал обычные трусы на 52-54 размер XXL
в результате пришли трусы с поясом 32 см (мне надо 52-52), т.е. мягко говоря маловаты....

Продавец борзо ответил, что на листе с продажами есть указание, что размер НЕ СООТВЕСТВУЕТ и может быть мал, и если не хочешь - не покупай.
При этом в выборе размеров изначально стоял размер Xl или XXL, т.е. стандартные размеры, нашивка на трусах XXL, о надписи Келвин Кляйн и говорить не приходится - явно "Оригинал".

Таким образом Продавец может выслать Вам вместо любого выставленного товара - кирпичь, если укажет в описании лота "товар может отличаться от заявленного, если не нравиться и не хотите, то не покупайте"

http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/253162565.html

Please Check the your size information carefully as below,this is actual manual measurement ,so there maybe have 1-2cm error,it's belongs to the nomal range.If you are not satisfied with the size,even give us a bad feedback,please you don't buy it,thanks.

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не понятно, на картинке написано 32 см и вы их заказали. вот и получили.
 
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я заказад размер XXL
а на набор рекламных фоток не обратил внимания, в этом моя вина и только. Страница перегружена фотками и рекламными ссылками. При этом Продавец делал выбор размера l, XXl, Xl
смысл давать выбор ВИРТУАЛЬНОГО размера, если есть реальный?

Правильно - вариант мошенничества
 
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Так это ж на ребенка... Реально что ли у них ширина 32 см?
Имхо, как по мне так на картинке 32 и 34 - это дюймы. В этом случае все более логично становится, хотя конечно прод тут наколдовал с картинкой безбожно. Зачем то взял и этот обхват еще на 2 умножил :)
 
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Реально что ли у них ширина 32 см?
да, в диспуте я и выложил фото. На что продавец мне сказал, что он ОБ ЭТОМ предупреждал. А на 2 он не умножил, а указал погрешность плюс минус 2 см.


К сожалению на 99% я уверен, что пролечу с диспутом... мошенников на Али стало очень много.
 
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он ОБ ЭТОМ предупреждал
Странное предупреждение. На той же картинке указано что обхват по талии может быть 86 см. что где то близко к истине. Ну да, написано, что если Вы не согласны с тем, что размер может быть чуть меньше, не покупайте. Но в тоже время есть картинка, которая показывает реальные размеры.
Имхо, тут пободаться можно в диспуте.
 
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тут пободаться можно в диспуте.
буду.... продать этот товар будет проблемаично, не всякие трусы готовы купить с рук. Да еще с не определенным размером. А рисунок с размером он выставляет в защиту, там указано, что они меньше. Ну в общем это была последняя покупка с Али.
 
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Ищите 5XL. Тогда Вам подойдут. Проходили. Китайцы маломерят.
 
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Ну в общем это была последняя покупка с Али.
Вот мудрая мысль! :) Оно как бы ваше дело конечно, но покупку нижнего белья сомнительного качества из сомнительных материалов у китайцев, лично я не приемлю вообще. Здоровье оно как бы дороже...
 
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Ищите 5XL. Тогда Вам подойдут. Проходили. Китайцы маломерят.
вы мне не поверите, но до этого у ДРУГОГО продавца я купил XXL и они мне подошли идеально, но потом у него трусы пропали. Я все ношу 52 размера или XXL

скупой платит дважды, увы. Лучше бы тут купил, что и придется сделать в итоге.
 
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Thank you for contacting Alibaba. I am sorry to hear that the products you received for <60001569996235> (The goods name was MOQ 10 piece Hot Sale Free shipping Best Quality Cheap Men's Underwear Boxers Briefs Cotton Underwear Man Shorts) are not to your satisfaction.

As you claimed that order received is not as described, much more effective evidence should be provided. We want to know the order more clear, from the aliexpress, we didn't see that you have made the order with the size was more than32, from the order we found that you pay for the XXL, and from the seller's description, we found the seller said the goods's length was 32 cm, so if you have change the size, please provide clear pictures with the Chat Log within 3 calendar days. We only want to see the goods you have received.Noticed that don't give us the picture from the good's description. This evidences will be invalid to your dispute.(Please don’t provide pictures instead of video if video is requested)

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Полная защита мошенника, хотя оригинальные размеры в 2 раза больше.... должны быть.

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Where is my car?This is your requisites?
Beneficiary's Bank: SHANGHAI PUDONG DEVELOPMENT BANK (SUZHOU BRANCH)
Swift Code: SPDBCNSH373

Beneficiary's name: Yaojianping
Account Number: 6225 2108 8070 6859

Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com> Николай Антонов <nickleback@mail.ru> 18 мая 2012, 16:56
Dear, can you please be more patient?
I will help & check for you next week.

At 2012-05-18 20:34:37,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
You long are going to misinform and not to carry out me arrangements?


Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:27:48 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Hello, will soon have aan answer, please wait.



在 2012-04-30 20:24:13,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
WHAT IS GOING ON? 47 day!!!!!!


Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:30:28 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Hello, We are help you to check with the forwarder.
Can you please wait and give us some time?
Will help you to find it soon.
Thank you very much for understanding.

At 2012-04-23 13:52:54,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
What sort of a problem at you? I incur losses. I know that the feeding line from Shanghai it usually Maersk, whether so it? A vessel of this line already in port. Why don't contact me or I will call to the port and I will find out about arrival and then pay line damages for idle time in port.


Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:43:53 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Please be a little patient.
We ask for the forwarder, it still have not arrived at St petersburg.
May be have some problem on the shipping way.
We try our best to contact them.
Ask for them to be quick. Waiting for my reply please.

At 2012-04-20 10:49:31,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
You that don't understand that for cargo idle time to me to pay 150usd/day


Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:29:39 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Sorry for replying late because of a business trip.
Container number FD551095FZ, Shiiping line from Shanghai to St petersburg.

在 2012-04-18 17:13:25,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
Why are you silent? Tell container number and shipping line?


Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:38:27 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Ok, we note, on monday or Tuesday, call you and contact.

At 2012-04-13 23:19:44,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
You promised within the next week. Saturday and Sunday-day off, that is at the best will contact me on Monday? Call me or write.
Contact information
nickleback@mail.rumynameisgnom@yandex.ru
Mobile 89269615166
house 84997386983
skype motherfucker164
post index 124365 Moscow Zelenograd 1624-77


Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:22:07 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Please be patient, if it arrive, the forwarder will contact you.

在 2012-04-12 20:20:49,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
Nobody contacted me. I can go? The car arrived to the port


Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:11:45 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Ok, we note, we check with the forwarder, you still not get it?



在 2012-04-12 15:00:18,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:

Today already on April 12 it month

Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:32:35 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Not too long, please believe,
We already ask the forwarder to be quick and contact you.
No worry, we will help you.
Within next week, everything is ok.



在 2012-04-08 17:37:09,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:

How many still to wait, designate date?

Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:01:28 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Sorry for waiting, we already check for you & tell the forwarder to be quick, contact you soon when arrive at port.
Please we are trying our best to help you to communicate.

At 2012-04-08 03:11:58,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:

how many still to wait? The declared 20 days since March 14 it on April 3, and today on April 7.

Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:37:16 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Ok, we make sure your car has been sent out.
Can you please wait for us? We will check the information for you.

At 2012-04-04 22:27:43,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
What shipping line (CHiNA SHIPPING, HUNJIN, YANG MING) and container number or B/L number.Whether it is necessary to me to go to the port on April 6


Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:31:24 +0800 (CST) от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Yes, we confirm that transfer is ok, get into the account.
Car together with the specification and EEC certificate.

在 2012-03-16 15:14:20,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:

My bank bank asks to confirm transfer for question closing. Certificate EEC?
16 марта 2012, 04:17 от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Yes, DLEV1005 8.5kw 120km/h will be sent, as we promised.
Any question, please feel free to let us know, we are very happy to help you.
Yours sincerely.



在 2012-03-15 22:21:07,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
What make of the car will be sent, DLEV1005 8.5kw 120km/h? As your company is called?


13 марта 2012, 18:32 от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Dear Николай Антонов

Ok, thank you very much. We noted. We will check. After an customer visiting tomorrow, we will reply you.
And contact with the forwarder about where the sample car is and arrange for your picking up at the port.

Yours sincerely.

在 2012-03-13 17:20:28,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
Money resources are translated into your account


09 марта 2012, 11:39 от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Please reply, what's going on?
Why you do not reply?
the sample car will arrive very soon.
If still get no reply or no transfer of full price 3900 usd.
We will ask the forward to get it back.
Maybe you do not transfer money.
Or you must write the wrong / not correct for our bank information.
Why we still not get the transfer money?
Please reply as soon as possible.

在 2012-03-07 17:18:06,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:



07 марта 2012, 12:24 от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Yes, engineering specifications are specified VIN number of the European sample (14 digits), printed on the chassis of vehicle, also reflect on documents.
Still not get the money transfer.Can you please check for us?

Our bank information is as follows:

Beneficiary's Bank: SHANGHAI PUDONG DEVELOPMENT BANK (SUZHOU BRANCH)
Swift Code: SPDBCNSH373

Beneficiary's name: Yaojianping
Account Number: 6225 2108 8070 6859

Looking forward to hearing from you.





At 2012-03-07 13:33:01,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
Whether you got a money transfer? In engineering specifications should be specified VIN number of the European sample (14 digit)


06 марта 2012, 10:39 от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Dear Николай Антонов,
We see attached transfer bill, thank you very much.

Our bank name: SHANGHAI PUDONG DEVELOPMENT BANK (SUZHOU BRANCH).
Swift code: SPDBCNSH373 .
On the bill you do not write on.

We only see our bank account number and account name write on the bill.
can you please make sure transfer information exact and full? ( transfer bill type all information on?)
After getting full price of 3,900 USD, you will be ok to pick it at port soon.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Yours sincerely.

在 2012-03-03 23:12:17,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
tranfer bill copy as attached


03 марта 2012, 18:07 от Baihongjun <baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Dear
We note receiver's details: Antonov Nikolay Aleksandrovich Moscow Zelenogad 1624-77 post index (zip code) 124365 tel. +7-926-961-51-66

When arrive at port, they will call you to pick it up. Can you please confirm if you pay / transfer full price 3,900 USd?
If so, can you please send by e-mail: money transfer bill copy?

Look forward to hearing from you.
Yours sincerely.

At 2012-03-03 17:20:17,"Николай Антонов" <nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:

Antonov Nikolay Aleksandrovich Moscow Zelenogad 1624-77 post index (zip code) 124365 tel. +7-926-961-51-66

03 марта 2012, 06:50 от Baihongjun <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Please see attachment of packing list. Technical characteristics documents with certification copy + invoice + photos are sent together with the car in the container.
We make sure in documents reflected 3-5 years (date of manufacture till March 2009), the hybrid engine in volume 1000сс is marked as 600сс.
When arrive, the forwarder will call you to pick it up at your destination port. Please confirm your contact / phone number and detailed address.

By the way, you already pay / transfer 3,900 USD? If so, can you please scan the transfer / payment bill and send by e-mail to us? We just want to make confirmation.
look forward to hearing from you.




At 2012-03-03 01:19:44,"Николай Антонов" <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
money transfered successfully 3900usd. Send technical characteristics and a car photo in different foreshortenings (salon including). In documents should be reflected that to the car of 3-5 years (date of manufacture till March 2009) any run, the hybrid engine in volume 1000сс is marked as 600сс


02 марта 2012, 11:17 от Baihongjun <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Dear Николай Антонов
You mean today you transfer full price 3, 900 USD? If so, you will have no problem to pick it up when arrive at destination port.
We confrim 600сс that should be reflected in documents and is marked on the engine though the engine should be 1000сс.

Our TT Payment information:

Intermediary Bank: HSBC Bank USA
Swift Code: MRMDUS33Beneficiary's Bank: SHANGHAI PUDONG DEVELOPMENT BANK (SUZHOU BRANCH)
Swift Code: SPDBCNSH373

Beneficiary's name: Yaojianping
Account Number: 6225 2108 8070 6859
Look forward to hearing from you.
Yours sincerely.



在 2012-03-02 02:32:34,"Николай Антонов" <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
tomorrow i transfered money 3900usd


01 марта 2012, 15:14 от Baihongjun <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
You transfer / pay on March 9th?
Why you pay on March 9th, ( not this week?)
We do not understand.

在 2012-03-01 11:18:52,"Николай Антонов" <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
Transfer to be carried out 9 march


01 марта 2012, 06:51 от Baihongjun <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
We note volume approximately 600сс that should be reflected in documents and is marked on the engine though the engine should be 1000сс.
About patment of TT, we do not understand what do you mean. Can you please tell is it possible to transfer / pay? when?
Look forward to hearing from you.

At 2012-03-01 10:41:12,"Николай Антонов" <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
Ok. But not earlier on March, 9th or 12. Presidential election in Russia banks doesn't work also transfer of money resources into accounts will tighten and today available 2100USD. And for customs it is possible to specify cost 3000-3200usd and volume approximately 600сс that should be reflected in documents and is marked on the engine though the engine should be 1000сс. It becomes for decrease in customs payments as the customs checks numbers and marks of engines and the payment size depends on it


01 марта 2012, 05:12 от Baihongjun <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
We make sure hybrid engine that go from batteries with a speed to 60km/h & by means of gasoline fuel to refuel on road. Engine capacity is 1000сс & year of manufacture till March 2009 (3-5 years) is marked. All are reflected in documents the car to be 3-5 years.
Already delivered, will arrive at St.-Petersburg soon, please see the payment of TT information. After confirmation of your payment 3,900 USD ( full sum), the forwarder will call you and give B/L, invoice and packing list papers to sign, then you can pick it up. Hope you understand this situation.

Payment information:
Intermediary Bank: HSBC Bank USA
Swift Code: MRMDUS33Beneficiary's Bank: SHANGHAI PUDONG DEVELOPMENT BANK (SUZHOU BRANCH)
Swift Code: SPDBCNSH373

Beneficiary's name: Yaojianping
Account Number: 6225 2108 8070 6859

Please note, payment must be done this week before Friday. Otherwise may have problem to pick it up at port when arrive.

Look forward to hearing soon from you.
Yours sincerely.


At 2012-02-29 17:11:49,"Николай Антонов" <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
I was agree only owe the hybrid engine that I could go and from batteries with a speed to 60km/ch and by means of gasoline fuel to refuel on road Thus engine capacity should be to 1000сс and year of manufacture till March 2009 (3-5 years) is marked. All it should is reflected in documents that to the car of 3-5 years. Send requisites for payment or I will pay in port to your representative the sum


29 февраля 2012, 10:51 от Baihongjun <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Thank you for e-mail. When send the firstnsample car, B/L document, EEC certification copy and specification sheet were together delivered, when it arrive at destination port around 29th, March, the forwarder will give B/L and packing list to sign.

Then you can pick it up. ( means: when arrive, forwarder give documents to sign).
Now, all forwarder dare not accept free of charge products, our local government also call us: refuse to do so. They say: only shipping and package cost pay is not enough, all product should be 100 % pay by TT, or we will be punished. That is the reason we reply later to settle the problem.
Ca you please understand us? And arrange to pay full price 3,900 USD by TT?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Yours sincerely.
Suwin.


At 2012-02-28 23:52:55,"Николай Антонов" <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
The container, container number goes what sea line. In the consignment number of the container and the name of a sea line transporting this container is underlined. What sea company transport
Who is your agent in St.-Petersburg
You bring cargo to what terminal Pushkin, Krondshtatsky, Ustluzhsky, Treha, and so on them here is a lot of Turyhtany.For a customs clearance it is required to me following documents and where to me them take:INVOCE, Packing List, Certificate of Original. You will give them to me?


22 февраля 2012, 23:52 от Baihongjun <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Send by plane will have track number to check on internet.
We deliver by ship to your seaport, so do not have track number like by air.
When arrive, they will get a B/L copy for you to sign to pick it up.


At 2012-02-22 23:07:20,"Николай Антонов" <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
please tell my cargo tracking number for monitoring in port. It is necessary to show what documents for reception?



16 февраля 2012, 06:15 от Baihongjun <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Yes, correct, arrive to the Petersburg seaport . Arrival date on March, 5th 2012.
with the hybrid engine, to refuel gasoline, to go economically from a source battery with a speed to 60km/h.

At 2012-02-15 23:01:34,"Николай Антонов" <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:

If I have correctly understood it is necessary to arrive to the Petersburg seaport and to receive documents (proforma invoice)? Name more precisely date. Whether probably to make the car with the hybrid engine that it was possible to refuel gasoline and to go economically from a source battery with a speed to 60km/h. Whether you collect motorcycles with the hybrid engine

15 февраля 2012, 04:48 от Baihongjun <http://twebmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Dear Николай Антонов
Thank you for e-mail. The car has already been sent.
Please wait it to come. Delivery needs about 20 days.
Yours sincerely.


在 2012-02-14 20:30:04,"Николай Антонов" <http://twebmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
Have you already sent the car?


12 февраля 2012, 11:34 от Baihongjun <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Dear Николай Антонов
We note and will arrange to send your car tomorrow.
We check the western union payment information.
All other information is correct.
Send's first name Nikolay is not exact. Western union say there are other words in first name.
That means send's first name Nikolay is correct, but there are also another word in first name.
Can you please check for us? Send's first name and last name must be the same as type in western union bill.
Thank you very much for help.
Yours sincerely.

在 2012-02-11 22:48:01,"Николай Антонов" <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
sender confirmation fisrt name Nikolay last name Antonov MTCN 857-058-9784


11 февраля 2012, 09:20 от Baihongjun <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
We note color - red left hand drive and will send you the car next Tuesday. We know the ship company ( in Shanghai city). We ask them to send for us and cooperate for a long time.
Send directly to Peterburg seaport.
Can you transfer shipping and package cost 600 USD by western union soon?
western union payment information is as follows:
Receiver’s first name / given name: Jianping
Receiver’s last name / family name is: Yao
After sending, you will get a money transfer control number (MTCN).
Then please tell us the number, also tell send’s first name and last name. ( Must be same as type in the western union bill).
That means you transfer 600 USD by western union first, then we ask the ship compay to send car to you.
Yours sincerely.

At 2012-02-10 21:05:20,"Николай Антонов" <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
color - red left hand drive Confirmation Thurturday or Monday I don't know shipping company. When you city transfer shipping? St.-Peterburg seaport


10 февраля 2012, 15:34 от Baihongjun <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Please confirm what colour do you like? Right hand drive or left hand drive? We will arrange to send the first sample car for free to you, and get ready now. Can you please confirm when you pay / transfer the shipping and package cost 600 USD? After confirmation of your payment, we will arrange to deliver to your address soon.

在 2012-02-10 16:44:06,"Николай Антонов" <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> 写道:
OK


10 февраля 2012, 08:10 от Baihongjun <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
How are you? Have you read our reply?
We note Seaport St.- Petersburg or Rostov on Don
Address Zelenograd 1624-77 Moscow 124365 post index
We will arange the first sample car to you soon.
You should pay for delivery / shipping and package cost 600 USD.
The first sample car is for free / free of charge.
That means: 600 USD pay by western union first, then we send the car to you.
Our western union payment information is as follows:
.
Receiver’s first name / given name: Jianping
Receiver’s last name / family name is: Yao
After sending, you will get a money transfer control number (MTCN).
Then please tell us the number, also tell send’s first name and last name. ( Must be same as type in the western union bill).
Yours sincerely.




At 2012-02-07 22:05:09,"Николай Антонов" <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:

Send screenshots of an electromobile and bill and wait when I will save up the sum and I will make remittance. Seaport St.-Petersburg or Rostov on Don
Full adress Zelenograd 1624-77 Moscow 124365 post index

07 февраля 2012, 04:43 от Baihongjun <http://e.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Dear Николай Антонов,

How are you? We talked about electric car, do you still remember? We can take motor to use hybrid
We want to cooperate with you for more business in the future. so we consider to send you a sample car for free / free of charge. After you test and check good quality, then more order next time.
Customer just need to pay for shipping and package cost 600 USD by western uinon.
Do you agree, if so we will tell the western union payment information, ad use it to deliver to you.
Look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely.


At 2012-01-17 13:58:22,"Николай Антонов" <http://twebmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:

Send me the changed technical characteristics and screenshots. As in Russia Only petrol station and diesel you should understand the moment of service of the car that is how me to refuel at gasoline stations?

17 января 2012, 08:44 от Baihongjun <http://twebmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
We checked with the engineer and technicians.
We can give motor to use hybrid, the price is 4, 500 USD.
transit expenses and package 600 USD.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Yours sincerely.


At 2012-01-15 22:45:41,"Николай Антонов" <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:

Me arranges, whether there is a possibility instead of the given motor to use hybrid and then send a price

15 января 2012, 16:26 от Baihongjun <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Dear Nick Antonov
Thank you for e-mail. transit expenses and package 600 USD.
K-P and K-C electric car price is the same 3, 900 USD.
Payment: 20 % prepaid as deposit, the rest 80 % pay after delivery.
We are ready to help you and offer the best service.
Look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely.


At 2012-01-13 23:30:45,"Николай Антонов" <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=nickleback@mail.ru> wrote:
Hello the request to send the 2 price this electromobile taking into account transit expenses having specified your requisites. Whether there is a possibility in the given case and a complete set to replace the motor with more powerful and the battery holding a charge the big distances


10 января 2012, 06:44 от Baihongjun <http://webmail.mail.126.com/js4/sentmsg?compose&To=baihongjun1980@126.com>:
Dear Mr. Nick Antonov
Thank you very much for attention. We are a professional manufacturer & exporter of Electric cars, golf cars, sightseeing buses, classic cars, patrol cars, trucks and so on, all electric power and beautiful design.
Regarding the electric cars, pleases see the attachment of pictures, specifications and technical details. Best price is 3,900 USD FOB Shanghai (K - P and K - C electric car price is the same). We make both right hand drive and left hand drive.
Look forward to cooperating with you!
Yours sincerely
Suwin

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